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Point 82: Female Guest Artists – Hika K.

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Hika K.

Author’s Note: I will be writing in binary terms and use the formulation “man”/“- woman”, “female”/“male” instead of “read/ perceived as male/female” for a smoother read and due to a limitation of writing space. Therefore I hope that non-binary people will not feel excluded, especially since the inten- tion is to implicate perceived genders instead of exact gender prescriptions.

Where are the travelling female piercers?

I saw this question a few weeks back in a Facebook group for piercers and started to ponder. Indeed, where are they? If I were to name those that I am aware of, only a handful of names would come to mind – but reconsidering, thinking again I know there are more. I know them personally. I just forgot that they are travelling because I don’t see constant posts about their upcoming or latest travels. But even if I take those into consideration there are still not many, which is curious. If you asked me about travelling male piercers, my reply would be “Why, dear, nearly half of the males in our industry!” or at least that’s how it feels.

In all honesty I have rarely thought about travelling female artists. But once I started thinking about the question I couldn’t stop. Why are there so few, especially in the piercing industry, while I see quite a few female tattooers and performers travelling as much and as far as their male counterparts. Is our industry really so different? Between 2014 and 2017, I travelled what the people around me considered a lot – I didn’t see it as so much, compared to other artists. During this time, I travelled for guest spots to the point where I spent three months at a time constantly sleeping on a different couch every week. For me this didn’t seem to be outside of the norm. Apart from the fact that I didn’t promote it, there were really no hardships in finding new guest spots and work to do at all. Tattooers in the places I travelled were often surprised because they didn’t know about travelling piercers. Customers and friends were often surprised that piercers would be booked to go to other places and didn’t  stay  at  the  same  studio constantly. None of this had anything to do with my gender though. So how does it come that so few of my female peers are doing the same thing?

To be honest, although the mentality of our industry is far more open than more mainstream occupations, I have always considered it seemingly harder to be a female piercer. As in every workplace, we have to show far more competence than our male counterparts to be taken seriously; not always because our employers may see women as less professional, but more when it comes to clients. Outer appearance, physical height, and even the depth of our voice factors into the perception of competency, even if only on a subconscious level. Men can get away with more seemingly unprofessional or often what appears to be “cheaper” online representation with lesser quality photos than those posted by a woman. Strictness, being direct, blunt, or simple honest statements can be interpreted as rude, condescending or“bitchy” when it  comes  from a women, since we are expected to always be sweet and charming. On the contrary, it takes more effort to seem especially caring as a man. And even though it takes more work for a woman to be seen in the piercing industry as much as it does in any other profession, this should actually not stop us. In fact it should make us more prepared to do everything perfect at our guest spots – or as I call it, our homes for a limited time. It prepares us to not leave any room for mistakes but even to show beforehand in conversation why we are the best possible choice to fill in when help is needed.

So where are the travelling women?

As somebody who spends a lot of time researching stereotypical gender roles and their representation in media, as well as the result of this in the upbringing of persons of said genders, I have my own theories on all of this.

First of all an example that up to now I constantly shrugged off over the years: People tend to utter a certain surprise towards me when they learn I often travel unaccompanied. I love to be independent and make my plans alone instead of dragging people along. So even if I don’t work I often travel without company. For short travels and with a certain lack of money I don’t even mind hitchhiking, at least within Europe; for everyplace else I have watched too many horror movies. When I work I often get picked up by car from the train station or airport, especially at night—but this isn’t always the case. I don’t mind riding the train at night in unknown places. Most people don’t understand that. Most people can’t understand how I feel safe doing this. How I can feel comfortable even travelling alone in daylight.

Although I actually know these things, they didn’t come to mind until a friend reminded me. As a little girl you are told that it is unsafe for you to travel alone. As a woman this is confirmed. As a woman walking home alone at night you learn to change the side of the streets when a stranger approaches. You are trained early on to listen for footsteps behind you. Your kind is depicted in movies and books to be violated if no knight in shining armor appears early enough to save you. How safe can you feel alone on streets unknown to you then?

Where boys are brought up to be explorers, girls are brought up to need protection. Even if your parents don’t raise you in this direction, toys, advertisement, and children’s tv shows do. How many of the films that you watched as a child star a female hero leaving the safety of home going on a mission, or to just explore the world? I can’t think of any that were popular for my generation. The only stories where the woman or girl leaves home by her own decision are those where they do it for love.

For example, how many female characters are in The Fellowship of the Ring? On a side note: men are also trained from early on that it is adventurous to travel uncomfortably, whereas people seem to expect women to need it cozy. The shock on people’s faces when I tell them I slept for months on couches with only enough clothes to wash them once a week to be fresh again! If I hear the sentence “where is the rest of your luggage?” one more time! But it makes sense, given how much effort is put in by women to be considered “presentable” by society, as opposed to the effort men have to put into this. So it also might be more stressful for a woman to travel and still look “professional”.

This leads me to my next point. We are taught that love, the home, and a lot of emotional labor is what we are made for. In every mainstream movie or story from my childhood, regardless of how adventurous the heroine was, her adventures ended in the arms of a man. Even Mulan who subverted everything the man in her story thought a woman should be declines the option for a splendid career with the words “I have been away from home long enough.” The fact that she could have had her career and seen her family, well, that is another point and wouldn’t fit the princess themed message.

There is a certain idea in society, that a woman’s duties are to the family and are far more important than the idea of a career. As much as we are educated and can break away from traditional rules in our looks, behaviours, and career choices, it still feels uncomfortable to “neglect” the people in our life. Although I would argue that most of us are brought up to communicate a lot – which are the positive aspects of classic gender roles in this case – and be able to be present and supporting even via phone and text, it seems like it is not enough to only take care from far away. It feels often like the lack of physical presence is a cold shoulder towards our loved ones, especially our partners; I can see how this possibly stops women from leaving home and conquering the world.

Hell, even though I did regular guest spots gaining loads of experience in being away, and had different relationships (as well as friends) that all were supportive of my travels, I still feel a bit guilty when I make new plans. I feel like a bad friend for not being at birthdays. I feel like a bad girlfriend because it requires planning when to hang out and what events to go to together. I feel bad towards the customers in my hometown because they have to wait for appointments and I often can only do troubleshooting via text and refer them to other studios when    I am away. But all of this has to do with an idea ingrained in our brains by society that our role is to be nurturing and to always be “there”. Whereas we are trained through social constructs that it is fully acceptable, even a sign of great success, when a man doesn’t have time to make it to private events or to come home in time after work because of a busy schedule. A father working constantly and travelling for work? That is the way it is. But beware if a mother would consider a career that limits the time with her offspring that much, if she would put this responsibility on her partners shoulders! For a long while I thought it may be weird when I sometimes got asked “isn’t your boyfriend feeling bad?” or hear “well, you don’t show your boyfriend enough love when you are always travelling.” I wonder if men hear those things—but I highly doubt it.

The idea of having to be there, building and keeping up a comfortable and warm home, putting the  responsibility of the world on our shoulders—that is something we put on ourselves, because we may think we have to. But in the end: we are the ones pressuring ourselves. There is no higher power deciding that we should. We do so because we believe we have to take care of the happiness of other people, but we should take care of ourselves first of all. Staying calm and in a fixed workspace is fine, nothing I would argue against. But if the feet are giddy and there are too many “buts” in our head, one should think about how important those are and where they come from.

Even if you know that you should be able to pursue your career as much as your male counterparts, it is hard to let go of the pressure and responsibility and I hope that a lot more of my  sisters realize that it is worth  it to let go. This is exactly what makes you special and amazing piercers: your ability to care. Fighting the obstacles. Taking the hard road of standing your ground in a (longtime) male-dominated field. Second guessing yourself and overcoming it. Making double the effort to show that you are doing a good job. Not having the option of letting your ego be bigger than your skills.

The women in our industry rock and should get ready to conquer the world.

Point 82: Piercing-Courtney Jane Maxwell

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Interview by Sean Dowdell

Reprinted with permission from InkSpired Magazine Issue 36

Shop: Saint Sabrina’s

City/State: Minneapolis, MN

Number of years piercing: 10

Sean Dowdell: Why did you want to learn to do body piercing?

Courtney Jane Maxwell: My first professional piercing when  I  was 14 left a strong impression on me. The piercer’s  bedside manner and ability to create the feeling of a safe, controlled space was quite inspiring. I left the studio knowing that I wanted to be that for other people. My long standing interest in body manipulation only added to that.

SD: When did you start body piercing, who taught you and where?

CJM: I started piercing right after my 20th birthday, just outside of St. Louis (where I am from originally). I am one of those oddballs that was self-taught, aside from a little guidance from a few local piercers – not the most glamorous answer, but the honest one. I have to emphasize that I do not believe this is an appropriate way to start piercing. It was unusual circumstances that allowed for it in my life, but nonetheless, I don’t ever encourage someone to follow my exam­ ple, especially at this point in history.

Luckily, for the future of my career, I started going to the annual A.P.P. conference from the very beginning. Relentless pursuit of my continued education is the reason I made it through.

SD: What piercers did you look up to while learning and why? Who do you currently admire in the industry?

CJM: Early on, 1 always remember looking up to the instructors/volunteers at the A.P.P. conference, as well the piercers on staff with BME. The people who were stepping up and getting involved. I always really admired that as a young piercer.

As I got to meet and learn more from other piercers, I was so impressed by Luis Garcia. He is one of those people who is such an exceptional piercer and teacher that I simply can’t imagine the industry without him. I admire what he has been able to do for the profession, and the amount he gives back on top of being a full-time piercer.

I also have to name Brian Skellie. He has changed the game for us by constantly raising the bar for industry standards, and bringing in a totally different level of scientific understanding to the field.

SD: What do you feel is your biggest contribution to the industry as a whole?

CJM: Truthfully, I feel as though I’m just getting started. My first thought was, “ask me again in another 10 years!”

SD: What would you say you are most known for in the industry and in your place of business?

CJM: I had to think long and hard about this, but perhaps my patience? I deal incredibly well with people that are challenging to communicate with, be it clients or other piercers. It’s something that is a great defining factor in my work as a piercer, but has been quite helpful over the years in regards to outreach work as well.

In addition, a lot of piercers and piercees contact me regarding my knowledge of genital piercings for transgender clients (pre and post op) so I gather that I’m known for that as well. I’ve always been pretty passionate about advocating for the interest of genital piercing clients in general.

SD: Being a female piercer, what advice do you think that most female piercers should be aware of as they climb into this industry?

CJM: I think being female is a different experience for many different people, so I hate to generalize. That said, I encourage people to be prepared.Think hard about what it means to you to be a woman, and what that could mean for you in the workplace. Be prepared to handle the many ways people may behave towards you because of this. Don’t be left wishing you would have said or done something differently. You need to be confident in order to handle the many situations you will find yourself in, so arm yourself mentally.

SD: Is there anything you wish to learn or get better at in the piercing industry?

CJM: Everything. Always. I’m never going to be done! If I ever say that I am finished, do me a favor and kick my butt.

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Point 82: Piercing-Christina Shull

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Interview by Sean Dowdell

Reprinted with permission from InkSpired Magazine Issue 52

Studio Name: Integrity Piercing

Number of Years Piercing: 16

Sean Dowdell: Why did you want to learn to do body piercing?

Christina Shull: Oddly enough, I had no interest in being a piercer. I found a studio that was willing to take me as a tattoo apprentice but only on the condition that I learned how to pierce as well. That was the only opportunity I could find for a tattoo apprenticeship, so I took it. I quickly realized that I did not have the creative ability to draw custom tattoo designs and I would have been a mediocre flash artist at best. Luckily, at that time I also realized that I had an unexpected passion for piercing and decided to give up on tattooing to pursue professional piercing. While I have developed strong feelings about not using piercing as a stepping stone for tattooing, I am fortunate that in my particular situation, it worked out well for me.

Sean Dowdell: When did you start body piercing, who taught you, and where?

Christina Shull: I started piercing in October 2000 in Wenatchee, Washington. My original apprenticeship was very minimal and left me seeking appropriate training and education. That search brought me to the 2001 APP Conference, where I made connections who led me to the two Seattle piercers, J.J. Moiso and Troy Amundson, who took me under their wings and mentored me for two years. During that time, I was actively seeking a better studio than where I was at but lacked the resources that the piercing industry now has. Through obtaining the APP’s Al D. Scholarship in 2003, I was able to relocate to Evolution in Albuquerque, where I received much-needed guidance from their talented team – Crystal Sims, Shawn Taylor, and Noah Babcock.

Sean Dowdell: What piercers do you look up to and why?

Christina Shull: I could fill the whole magazine with a list of who I look up to and why! I look up to everybody who has played a role in the inception and development of the APP, as it is an organization whose mission I wholeheartedly support. I look up to everybody who has been involved  in legislation and regulations, as their volunteered time has shaped the evolution of the piercing industry. I look up to the piercers who have innovated piercing procedures and the implements used, jewelry styles, and various concepts of business and customer service. I look up to every piercer who is representing the piercing industry on a professional level, as  the  collective effort of so many has lead to increasingly positive public perception and legitimizing the industry as a whole. In all, I have admiration and respect for the countless individuals who have contributed to the increasingly positive direction the piercing industry is taking. Since I feel that answer is very generalized, I will add that I really admire Brian Skellie. I hope  to someday possess as much  information, the willingness, and patience to share that information, as well as the amazing level of contributions to the industry that he possesses.

Sean Dowdell: I know you are an owner/ operator of your business. What made you decide to go out on your own and open your business?

Christina Shull: After 10 years of living outside of my home state, I wanted to move home to settle down close to my family and friends. My hometown has never had a high-end piercing studio, which gave me the opportunity to come home and open a business that my community was in need of. After years of working for and guesting in some of the best studios across the country, I had a lot of ideas about what my ideal studio would look like, the experiences clients would receive, and how I wanted my business to be perceived by my community.

Sean Dowdell: What challenges have you had being a female piercer, and with being a female business owner?

Christina Shull: Honestly, I have never felt that I have had challenges as a female piercer and business owner. If anything, I  feel that as a female, I have an advantage with my clients and when seeking past employment in the piercing industry. In many places where I have lived, found that there were many clients who preferred a female piercer for certain situations. In my current area, over 90% of my clients are female and  I find it advantageous that they feel I might relate to them better as a female.

Sean Dowdell: What do you think are (if any) problems within the piercing industry?

Christina Shull: One of the biggest problems that I see in the piercing industry is a lack of consistent professional standards. I feel that it is hard to be thought of as a professional industry when the majority of the industry does not meet acceptable industry standards. In most states, no training or education is required to obtain a piercing license, if the state requires a license at all, and that, unfortunately, leads to a large variance between studios in terms of quality, experience, and service. I believe that as more of the industry chooses to meet current industry standards (appropriate sterilization standards, jewelry materials and quality, studio setup, training, and education, etc.), the piercing industry will continue to be seen overall as more credible than in the past.

Sean Dowdell: Where would you like to be in 5 years (pertaining to life and business)?

Christina Shull: I have a lot of plans in the next five years! I chose to grow my business in a very slow but steady pace, but after three years of being the only piercer, I am ready to expand my staff and studio hours. I plan to add a second full-time piercer and complete a full apprenticeship for my receptionist, who has been working counter for eight years and has earned herself   a quality apprenticeship. Once I have a full staff and my business is able to run without me piercing full time, I would like to pursue an education as a CPA and offer industry-specific business consulting and accounting. I feel that the piercing industry lacks industry specific help when it comes to planning and running a business, and   I would love to fill that void. As far as personal goals go, I am working on finding a good work-life balance. I have struggled over the years to find a more healthy balance between the two aspects of my life, and moving back to my hometown was a big step in working towards having more balance between business and personal life. My five-year plan involves working towards having a personal life that brings me as much satisfaction and happiness as my professional life does.

Sean Dowdell: I had the pleasure of getting to hear you teach at APP conference this year. I really liked your personal approach to the community that you serve. Can you tell me a little about your perspective on that?

Christina Shull: Thank you, Sean! While I feel that stereotypes about body art businesses and professionals have been improving over time, I feel that we still have a way to go before we are seen as a professional industry. When I opened my studio, it was important to me to break the local stereotypes for body art businesses and be perceived as other local businesses are. I also have firm beliefs about being an active part of my local community and be able to give back to the community. My approach has been to be as involved as possible. My business is very active with the local Chamber of Commerce, we are Better Business Bureau members, we donate lavishly to any local fundraiser or event, we sponsor local events and programs that we support, we hold fundraisers for local causes that we feel strongly about. The Integrity Piercing brand has become a household name that is synonymous with local community, even with people who have never stepped foot in our establishment.

Sean Dowdell: What do you love about teaching other piercers both inside and outside of conference?

Christina Shull: I love being a part of the positive evolution of the piercing industry! The better we become individually, the better we are as an industry. I am very honored that the APP has had me as an instructor for over ten years, and has given me the opportunity to be a part of the profession of the piercing industry. Also, going back to my rough start in the industry, I will always be thankful for the piercers who had a monumental part in shaping my career and I am   truly grateful for the opportunity to help other piercers who are now where I once was. I love being able to give back to the industry that I adore so much.

Sean Dowdell: What changes would you like to see in the piercing industry?

Christina Shull: I would like to see more forward momentum towards the adoption and implementation  of currently accepted industry standards. While we now have more studios offering higher standards, the majority of the industry is still not offering clients the best. I hope that the future brings more studios wanting to offer clients the best possible experience, education, and jewelry.

I also hope to see more piercers seeking out the best possible training and education, as well as more studios treating their technicians as skilled workers deserving   of better pay and benefits. I hope the future will allow for professional piercing as a long term career that can provide a comfortable living and retirement.

Sean Dowdell: Tell me something positive that you feel comes from the piercing industry?

Christina Shull: I love that the piercing industry helps our clients live a better life. Whether we are helping someone feel more comfortable with their body, to celebrate a particular moment or achievement, or overcome a fear, we are providing an outlet for personal growth and self-improvement. Having an impact on my client’s life, regardless of the extent of that impact, is something that I consider to be very sacred and wonderful.

Sean Dowdell: What would you like other piercers to know that they might not know about you?

Christina Shull: I don’t think there is anything that I haven’t publicly shared about myself. I try to be as honest and forthcoming with the industry as possible.

Sean Dowdell: Being a veteran piercer, what advice do you think that most new piercers should be aware of as they climb into this industry?

Christina Shull: I hope that any piercer will never get too comfortable with what they think they know. Even with 16 years of piercing, I am always open to new techniques, ideas, and ways  of doing things. By always  being open to new things, I have kept my job interesting, I am always improving, and I have never had to worry about experiencing burnout. Staying open minded and not becoming stagnant has enabled me to continue bettering myself as a piercer  and business owner.

Sean Dowdell: Is there anything you wish to learn or get better at in the piercing industry or in business in general?

Christina Shull: I am constantly looking to improve my piercing techniques, my customer service skills, and my knowledge of business. I do not want to ever get to a point where I feel that I don’t need to keep learning and growing. As a somewhat new business owner, I feel there is so much that I can learn about accounting and running a business.

I am looking forward to what the future holds as far as learning more about what I can do to run a business that puts first both the needs of my clients and my staff.

Point 82: Misty Forsberg

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By Efix Roy, Empire Body Arts

The first time I heard the name Misty Forsberg, it was attached to a photo of a beautiful and very well done scarification, and labeled as her very first piece ever. I immediately thought she was either a liar, or an extremely talented person. I was very happy to quickly find out she was indeed very skilled and knew exactly what she was doing. As a scarification artist myself, I followed her progression through this male dominated niche with great interest. Everything I would see from her on BME kept getting better and better, and I felt a wind of change coming as one of the rare women doing scarification professionally was making a name for herself.

Rapidly, her name was everywhere. I was reading her articles on Suspension.org, documenting the various activities and advancements in the body suspension community. I would see her running around the Dallas Suscons, quietly helping Allen Falkner make these events happen flawlessly. With his very special way of mentoring, she would soon discover a passion for education, teaching and training at suspension events all over the world. Her time and involvement within the body suspension world was rewarded in 2012 with the first A. “Spliff” Rosa Award for Advancement in Body Suspension. She went on to then co-found the International Suspension Alliance and sat as a Board Member on its first term.

All this being said, her biggest and most impressive achievement is probably her involvement in rewriting the body art legislation for the state of Arkansas. Teaming up with Steve Joyner and the Arkansas Body Modification Association, she embarked on a giant legal journey, fighting in the House and Senate against a state senator who used misinformation to try to ban certain body art practices such a scarification. From 2011 to 2013, they worked on stopping the ban on scarification while also passing safer legislation for the tattoo and piercing industry. From there, they worked on updating the body art rules and regulations for the state health department. The battle between their group and the senator was highly publicized, and as far as I’m aware, it was the first time the APP took a stance on a matter outside of the body piercing realm.

Although not actively piercing at this time, her interest in education and advancement of the piercing industry continues. Misty now focuses on laser tattoo removal  and is sought after for her extensive knowledge and amazing results. She still travels all around the world doing scarification, teaching, and facilitating body suspensions. Whenever she gets a bit of time off, you can find her on top of a mountain swearing at a bunch of rocks.

Not all heroes wear capes. Some of them wear old grandma sweaters, have a very quiet voice, and still kick more ass than Superman. Misty Forsberg is definitely one of the latter.

Point 82: Sarah Wooten

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By Elayne Angel, Rings of Desire, Reprinted from The Point Issue 64

President’s Award

One of my favorite things about serving as APP President is that I have the “job” of bestowing an annual award. There aren’t any formal or established criteria for me to follow, and in some ways that makes it even harder to reach a decision on the winner. That said, when I came up with the idea of naming this individual, I knew it was absolutely the right choice.

I wanted to make it clear during my brief speech at the banquet that it shouldn’t only be the super-sparkly, outgoing, attention-getting folks (such as myself) who are noticed. I wanted to recognize someone who is hardworking and highly participatory, but in a quieter, more behind-the-scenes way than some of us.

This person studied photography at the Art Institute of Chicago in 1992-93. They have been a professional piercer since 1998 and an APP member since 1999. This piercer worked in a studio as an employee for eight years, until 2006 when that business closed. They opened their own studio in 2007. This person is incredibly devoted, dedicated, consistent, and cares deeply about doing quality work.

This recipient has served admirably on the Conference Committee since it formed in 2008; she also volunteered at our annual events before that. She handles a task that is surely one of the most daunting and difficult with grace and compassion: She wrangles all of us speakers and our handouts and PowerPoint presentations so they are ready for Conference. Her patience and diligence are beyond measure. I’m a little embarrassed to admit she’s even had to goad me at times to extract my presentation materials.

Not only is this woman a wonderful piercer, a respected colleague, and a fantastic employer, she is also an amazing mother.

She has aptly been described as “The APP’s best kept secret.” This woman has earned my deepest respect and is so deserving of recognition for her efforts on behalf of the industry and this organization.

My selection for the 2013 recipient of the President’s Award is Sarah Wooten.

Thank you so much Sarah for all that you do. You earned this award so quietly and gently, yet thoroughly. Congratulations!

Preferring to make receiving the award a positive and pleasant experience, I did not require her to address the audience at the banquet. I am aware that this woman of many talents does not have public speaking high on her list of favorite things to do. So instead I suggested that she write something for The Point and here it is:

“I am feeling honored, humbled, and a little overwhelmed with having been chosen to receive the 2013 APP President’s Award. I like to joke around that I have some sort of obsession with volunteering, but the truth of the matter is that it’s one of the most rewarding aspects of having a career in this industry. I strongly believe that the APP has done an immeasurable amount of good for piercers, both for our industry and for our community. To me, the ability to give back by donating my time and energy in such a direct way is really gratifying. Being a part of the Conference Committee allows me to work closely with people I respect and admire, and to help create this wonderful educational event that benefits fellow piercers. I had no idea in advance just how much hard work goes into each year’s Conference, but the result makes the effort more than worth it.

“I’m incredibly thankful for the recognition. It makes me want to work harder and to do more. I’d also like to take this opportunity to encourage others to consider volunteering in some capacity. There are so many different ways to reach out and give something back, and I promise you’ll be glad that you did.”

Well said, Sarah!

Point 82: Alicia Cardenas

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By Casey Hosch, Sol Tribe Custom Tattoo & Body Piercing

Casey: Who are you?

Alicia: My name is Alicia Cardenas. I am a professional body piercer, tattooer, modification artist, and business owner in Denver, Colorado.

CH: How long have you been in the industry?

AC: Since July of 1994, so 24 years.

CH: Tell me a little about your apprenticeship.

AC: It was a very non-traditional apprenticeship under a woman who was very involved in the BDSM community. Her name was PJ and she was a Fakir Intensive graduate. She ran a tattoo/piercing/ dungeon shop in Denver called Bound by Design. My apprenticeship was very traumatizing! It was an unethical fast track to ritual in piercing. I don’t have any regret regarding the way I was taught, but would never do that to someone else. I consider myself to be a lifetime apprentice, forever learning especially in and around my involvement with the APP. I apprenticed for about 3 months. I went from never touching a client to full time body piercer in that three month period. Benefits of such a difficult apprenticeship are that I learned very quickly what I did and did not want to be involved in. I learned boundaries by  having  my  boundaries  pushed too far. I learned respect from not receiving any. I learned that even women can be abusive to other women. I learned that there is no amount of money that can replace trauma.

CH: Can you comment on the duality of science versus ritual, the importance of both in the piercing industry? With such a short apprenticeship, when did you experience/delineate both sides?

AC: When I started in the industry, there was very little science involved. We didn’t even package tools in disposable pouches. Tools went from autoclave into drawers and we used glutaraldehydes (cold sterilization) to disinfect. There were no regulations, no standards, and even the APP was merely beginning. There was only ritual and it was based (because of my teacher) in BDSM. Quickly I learned that this was not my way, sexually that is, but that I liked the ritual aspect of it. The intention and layers of emotion and spirituality called to me. The science and aspects of mathematics like measurements and clinical practices came much later and also intrigued me. I definitely helped bring the science to it after I became involved with different movements to get the industry regulated. The NEHA Body Art Code that all states use as their model codes, that was me in 1999.

CH: When you started, what was it like being a woman in a male run industry?

AC: DIFFICULT!!! I had to work twice as hard for half as much. I learned quickly to work with the shortcomings of my male counterparts, so we could  thrive as a team. I basically learned to wipe everyone’s ass to make myself an asset. I protected myself by laying down boundaries, basically telling all the men that I would not sleep with them to make my way to the top.

CH: How long have you been a business owner?

AC: Since 1996. I opened Addictions Tattoo Company with Chris Chrome in ‘96. In the summer of 1997 I opened Twisted Sol with Mike Nichols, and in 2009 I opened Sol Tribe with Kevin Strawbridge. Now I am the sole owner of Sol Tribe. So 21 years.

CH: I find it interesting that all your business partners have been men? Touch on that and why you have decided to go solo.

AC: I guess that is true. I have had many different collaborators over the years and many of them are men. My experience around male counterparts has been all over the spectrum. I have grown from having known them, I have emulated aspects of them, and I have outgrown them. I no longer wish to collaborate with anyone on a business level mostly because I work circles around people. I work hard and I have a lot of raw experience (I have fucked up a lot). I am, however, extremely grateful for all my partners even the one I don’t communicate with anymore. Each person I worked with has given me gifts of which I would not have gained on my own. I consider all my partnerships to have been successful.

CH: Who helped you on your journey to being the boss?

AC: My mother is my greatest influence and taught me to run my own show. She helped me open Twisted Sol the same year she passed away. I was always a bossy girl though, so it came very naturally to me. Turns out that bossy just means you are a strong leader.

CH: Why was it important to you to own your own business?

AC: If I didn’t own my own business, I would want to work for someone like me. Until that someone comes along I will continue do this (run my business). It’s important to follow your dreams and allow your visions to be realized.

CH: What change have you seen in the industry in the last 20 years?

AC: OMG! It’s almost unrecognizable. It’s heartbreaking… there is what I see as serious lack of ethics and respect in the younger generations of piercers. I have observed that many are no longer concerned with our history or lineage. BUMMER! Social media has changed the world and has certainly changed our industry. In my opinion you can have a huge following, do mediocre work (but you just happen to be able to take a decent photo of it), be a nightmare human who is cruel to others and to clients, and still be a sensation. Some things are going to need to change, and people are going to need to stop hiding behind their screens and learn to be good humans again.

CH: Let’s talk cultural appropriation. What is cultural appropriation?

AC: WOW. That’s a huge subject, and almost an article of its own. Let’s just say cultural appropriation is taking something, or using sacred symbolism, that is not culturally yours, for your gain. And using it without acknowledgment or education or even sensitivity of its original intention. Now having said that I would like to introduce a new phrase we should all become familiar with and that is cultural fascism. Cultural fascism is trying to control other people’s creative and free expression around cultural experience.

CH: Recently there was an ad from a jewelry company that didn’t sit well with a lot of folks due to the idea of cultural appropriation? What are your thoughts on that?

AC: It’s Cultural Fascism! Social justice warriors who are using social justice as a weapon to destroy people without knowing the entirety of the story. In my opinion, this is a huge subject and deserves a lot of attention. In this situation things went way too far. If your attempt to right a wrong (point out cultural appropriation) results in you threatening to harm someone over it, you have gone way beyond doing the work based in justice and you need to reexamine your work and vision.

CH: How does that affect you as a woman of color?

AC: Watching a bunch of people work out their decolonization and indoctrination is no longer interesting to me, especially on the internet. What America needs to know is that we, as a culture, were raised with white supremacy at the core of our values. And it’s going to take a lot more than a black president to pull us away from that. I am sad that we get caught up with what other people are choosing to do with their bodies when we still live in a world where people don’t have clean water and healthcare. Everyone needs to check their privilege and be rooted in the abundance we have come to know and stop taking it for granted. As a woman of color I am still distraught that there are not more women or women of color in our industry. I am horrified that a huge amount of the women in our industry still are on the outskirts of the industry and are heavily undereducated. I am mystified that people of color are not encouraged to start career paths in tattooing and body piercing. An industry with balance and diversity makes for a far richer industry (society). PERIOD.

CH: What advice would you give a young woman for success in the workplace? Or how do you continue to support women in the workplace?

AC: I continue to support women in the industry by investing in them. Teaching them and empowering them. My shop is an example of that! It’s run by badass women.

CH: Who have you trained? What is your experience around training others?

AC: I have trained only three people with full on apprenticeships, and only one is a full time piercer. It’s not a job for the weak. It takes constant growth and attentiveness. I am lucky to have trained you and consider our apprenticeship together to be one of the most thorough trainings I have ever witnessed, which only has half to do with me!!!!

CH: You trained me, the interviewer, what was that like as a whole? Why did you pick me?

AC: I picked you because you called and emailed me like 40 times. You being gifted in customer service was huge. I trained you because you would not take no for an answer and in this industry you have to fight for what you want. You were a natural born fighter. I am grateful that you carry on my legacy, not only in the moment of clean and effective piercing, but in a warmth, compassion, and effectiveness in touching other’s hearts.

CH: How do you achieve your work/life balance?

AC: I don’t! hahaha!!! I still live, work, and screw up my personal life constantly. But I would say having a system in place for self-care is what I am currently working on.

CH: Has being a mother changed any facts or opinions of the industry for you?

AC: Being a mother changed everything. Suddenly I had two kids, the shop and my real kiddo. Everything I learned in piercing has prepared me for parenthood. Compassion and patience. My child has expanded my conscientiousness.

CH: Where do you see yourself in the next five years? 10 years?

AC: I will always do body art. ALWAYS. It’s a lifestyle, not a job. But I imagine I will focus more on artwork and parenting and let you (the interviewer) run the shop until my kid can help you run it. I’d like to disappear into the woods and make a retreat center for healing. I would also like to sing in a mariachi band someday! 😉

CH: Who are some of your influences? Shout outs!

AC: Professionally—Women in the professional piercing industry who have inspired me include Elayne Angel, Gigi Gits from Kolo Piercing, Crystal Sims from Evolution, Ericka Smicenski from Somatic, Kristin Otter from Metamorphosis, Christiane Lofblad from Pinpoint in Oslo. And the anthropological efforts of Erika Skadsen. My favorite piercers also include Luis Garcia, Derek Lowe, Casey Hosch, Aaron Foster, Danny Yerna, Ryan Ouellette, Courtney Jane Maxwell, Chris Jennell. And on a personal level, Dave Field, Ana Paula Escalante, Caitlin McDiarmid, Beverly DeOlivera, Monica Larrea, Theresa Preston, Corey Lolley, and Casey Hosch.

Point 82: Mama Duck Caitlin McDiarmid

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I’ve known Caitlin for many years now, and I have never stopped being astounded at the level of love and commitment she has for our industry. Many of you know only a small fraction of the tremendous amount of work that she does. But instead of giving you paragraphs full of work details, I would like to talk about something else that she has contributed to our industry…

Caitlin has a rare gift of not only being able to recognize the strengths in others, but to help others recognize and develop their own strengths.

For more than a decade, she has overseen the groups of volunteers who assist us in running Conference every year. In the matter of a week’s time, she turns a group of relative strangers into a tight-knit and functional family. In addition to overseeing the largest event in our industry, she is also helping to instill in these volunteers a deep abiding love of serving our industry. She is somehow able to chan- nel being a friend/parent/sister/boss/teacher at exactly the moment each of these things is needed. Many of us have walked away from these experiences knowing ourselves better and with a strong desire to give back to this industry that we love. I feel like Caitlin is primarily responsible for this feeling.

Even after Conference, she makes a commitment to keep in touch with past volunteers, to offer support when needed, to pass along information about job openings, to spread the word when someone needs help, and to stay involved with this extended family. None of that is her job, that is simply dedication. To me, it shows how much her love for our industry extends beyond the confines of our profession, and into the lives of its practitioners. We are truly, truly lucky to have her.—Sarah Wooten

Caitlin “Mama Duck” McDiarmid is a pillar of power and the foundation of many facets of Conference. She’s the glue of the volunteer family and a prime example of what a strong, caring, and passionate person can do to affect change in the lives of others. I’m endlessly thankful to have her as a mentor, a leader, and an example of how to move through the world. She dances, she laughs, and she cries with us all, and she’s never afraid to get down in the mud with us and help us dig.- Dae Jedic

My first year at Conference was scary, but after meeting Caitlin and talking to her in person for the first time, all my anxiety went away because I could tell that no matter what she would be there to help me through the experience. And she did. I don’t know how the APP would function without her. She is the reason I come back year after year. —Aaron Foster

Many of you have heard me speak about Caitlin McDiarmid, who is often simply referred to as Mama Duck. I also have the distinct pleasure of referring to her as my twin;  we share the same birthday. But we also share so much more than that. I have been fortunate enough to celebrate this woman; during the 20th Annual Conference Banquet, I was able to stand in front of hundreds of you and tell every- one what I already knew – Caitlin is very special. I recited a piece of writing about pie. Pie is never the easy choice, but it is always worth the effort it takes. A perfect reminder that behind the scenes for many years there has been someone putting in the love, the long hours, the team building, the hard work, and all of if for us. I am lucky enough to have had this powerhouse of a woman as a boss, an employee, a men- tor, and most importantly as a friend. She has changed my life and lives of many others. So it is only fitting in an issue where we honour some of the many women who have lost sleep, spilled tears, and shed blood for their tribe, that we get out of our chairs and give this woman a standing ovation. This organization would not be the same without her and all she has done over the last decade.—Kendra Jane B

I met Caitlin only a short time ago but in a mere few months, she has single handedly changed my life, whether she is aware of it or not. I have her to thank for who I am growing into as a person and as a professional. During my overwhelming time (for myself and those around me) at the 2017 Conference, Cait- lin was at my beckoning if I needed her at all. For anything that I needed to speak about, cry about, or just to sit with. She put her needs aside for all of those who volunteered prior and present to help make the Conference happen every year. Our Mama Duck lived a turbulent year in 2017, but none of it stopped her from moving forward and keeping the APP alive and well, making sure our needs were met, that we were healthy and taken care of. She especially has impacted me to become more aware of my mental health and to take action on it. I hadn’t realized I needed to make a serious reality check on myself prior to my first Conference. She spoke to me gently and with immense professionalism, making sure that I fully understood where she was coming from as a Mama Duck. I have her to thank for the path that I am leading now. She truly is a strong warrior danc- ing queen. Mama Duck never quits; she works all year long for us and with us. Caitlin is a victorious manager and lead- er for our growing industry and I thank her for always keepin’ on. I love you, Caitlin.—Love always, Duckling Nina Mikulin

Caitlin’s title might be Administrator, but her expertise is far more than office management. She very much speaks the language of the industry and knows what’s happening before the rest of us. Piercers, studio owners, environmental health agencies, educators, jewelry companies, and health care providers all reach out to the organization for help. That makes Caitlin the first contact many of them have. She has to understand their needs and speak a language they understand. A school nurse’s needs will be different than a health inspector and Caitlin is proficient in communicating with both. Sometimes she needs to refer people requesting information and help to piercers in the APP community. This means she needs to be aware of who has certain skill sets and experiences and best suited for the job. If nothing else she must be an expert at delegating. Caitlin is great at her job and that can only happen if she loves what she does. So it’s obvious she has a lot of love for piercing, and whether or not you’re an APP Member, you benefit from her hard work.—John Johnson

Caitlin McDiarmid was the first person to really give me a shot at participating in  the APP. She helped me get some of my ideas incorporated into Conference; I’m happy to see both the Mentor Program and the workshop style of classes succeed because of that chance. Caitlin is a true inspiration to a generation of piercers who want to volunteer and see the industry and our organization grow. Thanks Caitlin! —Ryan Ouellette

Point 82: Raelyn Gallina

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By James Weber, Past APP President & Past Point Editor

The following appeared in issue 69 of The Point:

On September 6, 2014, the body modification industry lost one of its pioneers. After a long battle with cancer, Raelyn Gallina passed away.

In the early days of modern body modification, it was definitely a man’s world. Doug Malloy, Jim Ward, and Fakir are credited as being the “fathers” of the modern piercing movement, but while they were servicing a primarily male clientele, Raelyn was blazing a trail among women, offering piercing, branding, and scarification in the lesbian BDSM community. While Doug, Jim, and Fakir get the lion’s share of the credit for what modern piercing has become since it emerged in the late 70s, Raelyn’s name has often been little more than a footnote—and that’s a shame. (It is called “his-story,” after all.)

While she made her home in California’s Bay Area (the center of the modern body modification resurgence in the U.S. through the late 70s and 80s), Raelyn also had a tremendous impact on early body modification on the East Coast thanks to her travels. In the early 90s, she would see clients and do workshops in and around the Philadelphia, Washington D.C., and Baltimore areas, offering not only piercing, but also branding and scarification. At a time when feminists were leading the movement to politicize the body, she was creating a safe space for lesbians, leatherwomen, butches, femmes, the queer-identified, and even the occasional man. She presided over a women’s space, but welcomed everyone from the local queer communities.

Raelyn battled inflammatory breast cancer over ten years ago, and last May she found herself dealing with a recurrence that affected parts of her brain, bones, mediastinum, and lungs. She finished a course of 25 radiation sessions in June of 2013, and spent the fall and winter recovering. Although that radiation did a good job on many sites, Raelyn was still undergoing radiation treatments. Sadly, she lost that long, final battle. Raelyn was a pioneer in piercing, branding, and scarification, and even one of the early organizers of the APP, and without her influence our industry would not be where it is today. The world is poorer for her passing.

Point 82: Michaela Grey

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By Marina Pecorino, Point Editor

Michaela Grey in 1995. The photo was taken for PFIQ Issue 45 commemorating Gauntlet’s 20th Anniversary

Obviously, Jim Ward is widely regarded as the “father” of the modern, American piercing movement, but who is considered the mother? In my personal opinion, that  honorary title should go to Michaela Grey. At a piercing clinic in New York, Michaela met Jim Ward; she was a student at Sarah Lawrence at the time. Prior to this meeting, Michaela and her then girlfriend were performing piercings out of their dorm room, but Jim made such an impression on Michaela that she decided to move to San Francisco and seek an apprenticeship. In May 1991, Michaela was hired as a summer counter person at Gauntlet, and soon advanced into an apprenticeship position under Scott Shatsky and Karen Hurt.

An excerpt from Running the Gauntlet:

“By 1993 the mass proliferation of body piercing studios staffed with inadequately trained piercers was causing grave concern with health departments and legislators. In some places there was talk of outlawing body piercing altogether. We at Gauntlet had tried repeatedly to get others in the industry to police and regulate themselves, but with minimal success. It became apparent that unless we banded together and became proactive, we could very well find ourselves out of business. We knew that if body piercing were made illegal, the only piercers continuing to operate would be doing so clandestinely, and piercing clients would be no better off than they already were.

Any Gauntlet Senior Piercer who wanted to get their Master Piercer certification was required to undertake a special project. Michaela was ready to make this advancement, and her special project, the magnitude of which we didn’t realize at the time, was to attempt to create a network of responsible studios willing to work together with healthcare professionals and legislators to set reasonable standards for the industry and regulate rather than outlaw it. This became so time consuming that friction developed between Michaela and her coworkers. The store manager wanted to fire her. […]

Despite her rough edges, it was apparent to me that Michaela had too many things going for her to simply turn her out in the street. So rather than abandon her I made the decision to mentor her and take her on at corporate as my assistant. This gave her the time and freedom to work on a number of projects, including what eventually became the Association of Professional Piercers (APP). […]

In 1994 the State of California was poised to pass legislation (Assembly Bill 3787) that would regulate body piercing, tattooing, and permanent cosmetics. A handful of piercers from several studios began to network and strategize how best to assure that these forms of body modification were not outlawed. Those who met at the Gauntlet corporate office for those early meetings included Raelyn Gallina, several representatives from Body Manipulations, Nomad, and Primeval Body in L.A. Along with some of his students, including Idexa, Fakir also attended. The office was full. As the pending legislation grew closer to passing, a group got together and drove to Sacramento. Michaela spoke on behalf of the industry during one of the hearings for the bill. She also did a number of television interviews. The bill ultimately failed thanks to lobbying by the ear-piercing gun manufacturers. However, this did not end the threats to the industry, and the need for a professional organization to deal with them.

The APP founding members, left to right, Irwin Kane (Gauntlet), Raelyn Gallina, Vaughn (Body Manipulations), Michaela Grey (Gauntlet), Melisa Kaye (Body Manipulations), Richard Carter (Primeval Body), JoAnn Wyman (Body Manipulations), Elizabeth Brassil (Body Manipulations), Drew Ward (Gauntlet); kneeling, Blake Perlingieri (Nomad), Kristian White (Nomad)

Future meetings were held after hoursat the Market Street store. From these the APP came into being. Not surprisingly, there was much wrangling, many heated discussions, and some friction. Some of those who attended left in a huff never to return or to come back many years later. Blake Perlingieri helped Michaela with registering the organization for nonprofit status, opening a joint bank account for the funds, and starting its newsletter The Point. With the assistance of Ghadi Elias from Mastodon in San Diego, APP moved forward and organized its first board.”

Michaela served as the original Chair (later retitled “President”) of the Association of Professional Piercers, starting from its inception in 1994 until she transitioned to the International Liaison in June 1997. During this transition of the Board, in The Point: Issue 10, Kent Fazekas, incoming Chair, wrote the following about her:

“Michaela Grey. Words cannot express the amount of gratitude the APP has for you. The amount of work you have put forth toward the APP is remarkable. As chairperson of the APP your workload is enormous, and I can only imagine the amount of time per day you donate to the APP (I may be finding out real soon). You have a very pure heart Michaela and your actions show that you truly believe in the APP’s mission. We love you Michaela.”

During the fledgling years of the organization, in addition to her APP Chair responsibilities, she worked diligently to produce early issues of The Point. She also served as the co-editor for PFIQ, helping to redirect its focus from male/leather, to a more female friendly perspective. In PFIQ #45, Michaela wrote the following:

I do not discern between the experience of being pierced, the healing process, and the completed, integrated adornment; they are wholistic and inter-relative. Being pierced is a natural extension of my need to create an intentional environment for myself–a world of spiritual completeness, practicality, and uniqueness. I fiercely intend not to live an unexamined, blind life.

I started at the San Francisco Gauntlet in 1991. Prior to that, I spent two years as one of those uneducated hack piercers against whom I now crusade. My current responsibilities as an educator and media disseminator put me in the position of being able to make a real difference in the piercing experiences of others, for whom I am grateful. Piercing and other body-affirming practices are becoming ever more popular in defiance of an increasingly depersonalizing world. I am proud to be one of those spreading this message.

Michaela worked closely with Jim Ward to develop a piercer training curriculum for Gauntlet and co-author  a  written  manual called Responsible Body Piercing in 1993; she later became the director and primary instructor for these seminars, with other Gauntlet piercers co-teaching.

In 1998, prior to the existence of the President’s Award, the Board dedicated the “Jack Yount Memorial Certificate of Recognition” to Michaela, for her efforts in promoting excellence in professional piercing.

The Jack Yount Award, 1998

Due to friction with others in the industry because of her so called “conservative” views, Michaela stepped away from body modification to pursue a career in graphic design and production art. Later she went back to school for costume design and graduated from the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising (FIDM) in Los Angeles.

In 2005, the APP presented Michaela with a Lifetime Achievement award, stating that “her work to secure the stability of the [APP] in the early days were critical to its survival. Piercers have had the opportunity to speak to the regulations which govern them worldwide as a result of her efforts.” You can read more about this special award in  The Point: Issue 48.

This was originally intended to be an interview with Michaela Grey, but unfortunately, she declined the opportunity. She made it clear that she “left the industry due to gross persistent misogyny and disrespect for piercing’s history and elders” and as a result would prefer to keep her distance. Michaela is not alone in these feelings, and this underlying tone illustrates precisely why this issue of The Point is themed around the women in our industry, past and present.

From Brian Skellie:

Michaela knows that some of us commiserate with her for the rough times she had with APP, and how much I and many other people still hold her in high esteem. We should ensure our archive reflects Michaela with honor and respect as a person not just an integral past political figure. She worked tirelessly as an ally to our mission, no matter how uncomfortable or stressful it was. She took on so much in her role at 23 years old, put up with hard work and difficult debates along with the good, and much of it was thankless. Without Michaela, the APP could have just been a tiny, short lived CA endeavor. Thankfully she helped clear away some of the nonsense that gets in the way of the good work. There is much more to her personality and her work than the awards we gave her and back issues of The Point can illuminate.

We have kept in touch since her APP years. Michaela’s ever present wit shines in our interaction when I brought up the Archive and asked for her to reflect upon her involvement and share her ideas:

“Aside from the looming threat of ill-conceived legislation, I was forming the APP at the time I was running two Gauntlet piercer seminars a month. I observed a wide cross section of the piercers currently working, from folks I admired and respected to a lot of people I wouldn’t want piercing an apple juice carton with a straw. If I seemed excessively cautious it’s largely due to the truly scary folks I encountered in the seminars, and knowing that they represented a likely majority of the industry at the time (and sadly, probably still today).”

I believe her caution was sensible. She is skillfully self critical, and never needed my opinion or assistance. Some others at the time seemed to play the devil’s advocate and enjoy getting strong responses. This treatment of her efforts was lamentable. She should be remembered as a great gift to the trade. She saw video of the 20th Anniversary panel discussion and noted:

“I’m usually never thinking about that part of my life. It was very moving to see so many old cohorts gathered at that table to talk about the early days of the organization. All water under the bridge. I’m mostly pleasantly surprised. Allen’s mention of me was unexpected and got me a little misty. As he said, we butted heads often. It’s good to see that we both did it from love of the craft. It’s also interesting to see that some quandaries like “do we let crap jewelry manufacturers on the Expo floor” persist to the present day.”

Some companies have learned what it takes to make standard quality jewelry, and done well. Others still are dodging any light we shine on them, but we hope they will come around.

“I’m awed and humbled to see how the APP has grown. I’m also loving the international outreach! I have a number of the new Members from Mexico and Italy on my FB feed and it’s awesome to see it grow.”

Michaela with Jim Ward at the APP Banquet 2005 when she received the Lifetime Achievement Award

Point 82: An Interview with Bethrah Szumski

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By Sean Dowdell, Club Tattoo

Atlanta, Georgia: Virtue and Vice

Athens, Georgia: Pain and Wonder

SD: How did you get your start in the piercing and tattoo industry?

Bethrah: I started with my husband at the time Cap Szumski. I started Virtue and Vice in 1994.

In 1999 we bought Pain and Wonder and felt the name was strong enough to keep and grow.

In 2005 we were divorced and had to do a complete business partnership split. From this I developed a business management skill set that I never anticipated. I had the business know how to run and own both businesses.

SD: Do you find it hard to promote two different brands?

Bethrah: Not at all, they are in two different cities and each have a strong presence on their own! Each has its own unique identity, although there are aspects that crossover. The studios use the same logo and the interior colors are similar rather than completely different. They don’t need to conform, but rather reach each other in a progressive approach that ties together organically and through marketing. They reflect each other while the personality of the individual studio still comes through.

SD: Where and where were you born and raised?

Bethrah: I was born in 1971 in Berkeley, California but have travelled and lived all over including Albuquerque, Atlanta, New Mexico, Australia, and Ecuador. I even lived in a school bus for a year!

SD: Can you give us a little background as to how you came to be interested in piercing?

Bethrah: Dumb Luck lol, I was 16/17 and had my daughter at 16. I was a hostess and waitress at Village Inn. That was in 1987/1988. The only tattoo shop in town was Fineline Tattoo which was Brian Everett’s Studio and I was hanging out there a lot. I was dating a few of the bikers that were at the shop. Brian eventually hired Cap, and eventually he and I started dating and we fell in love. We ended up together for 16 years and he eventually adopted my daughter.

In the early 1990’s he became burned out and had saved some money. We took this money and travelled and eventually moved to Atlanta. We opened Timeless together and I was learning to tattoo. The following year I learned how to pierce.

This is when I called and spoke to Elayne Angel for advice in starting my piercing career. She advised me to take the Gauntlet course and invited me to come down. She was a GREAT source of information as far as simple anatomy and troubleshooting and approaching each piercing.

SD: Were you scared when you started; and if so of what and why?

Bethrah: I had nightmares for quite a while about guest spotting in New Orleans, but Elayne really taught me to change and grow. She really instilled the ability to learn and evolve and keep an open mind. It was a great experience actually and to have her as a mentor was just incredible.

I also helped Elayne develop a portfolio system which had enormous value. It allowed the capability of showing clients what piercings were actually going to look like and have discussions with the specific clientele. It was something that I was actually able to give back.

SD: What is something positive that comes from our industry?

Bethrah: What we provide as a service is important. It is an opportunity to mark an occasion in someone’s life. It can add a tremendous value to someone’s personal life experience. It can also improve aesthetics, sexual function, and quality of life in some cases. It can make people feel better about themselves which is great!

SD: What would you like to see change in our industry and why?

Bethrah: I would like to see female piercers getting a little more respect and adulation from the masses. Men in our industry seem to get much more acceptance and praise in our industry.

Secondly, “the freehand gods” should realize that there are so many more ways to do things and to be efficient. There is more than one correct way to do things. (Sean: BTW, I couldn’t agree more!)

 SD: Who was most influential to you in the early years and why?

Bethrah: Elayne Angel was instrumental in my career growth.

SD: What type of things have you contributed to our industry?

Bethrah: There is an enormous risk and bravery of accepting gray area. Meaning that anything that is left unproven or unexplainable can still be of benefit. It is okay to continue to do them. Otherwise you are selling yourself short in the interest of your client.

SD: What are your current interests, hobbies?

Bethrah: Most of my energy, brain power and effort goes toward improving the business or my work with the APP. Is cleaning house a hobby? I really like getting that done.

SD: Do you have any regrets or things you would do differently?

Bethrah: I wish I had stopped worrying about pleasing everyone  much  earlier.  Most   people go around worrying about their position in the status quo. Mob mentality and popular opinion are terrible things to measure by.

SD: What would you like others to know about you that may not know about you?

Bethrah: Oh my god, that’s hard! My employees say that I speak Spanish and have a “matter of fact” and shame free manner. For myself it’s that I have great respect for people who work hard for the greater good even when I dislike them in every other way. A lot of people talk a good game about what they would do or what others should do to make things better but very few people actually jump in and do the work. True dedication trumps everything for me. Also, maybe that I keep a go bag handy with basic survival items and a gas mask. I’ve figured out the best way out of my city on foot or bike and my dream house on my land would be essentially a box car bunker.

SD: When did you feel like you were going to be a success?

Bethrah: I’m still not sure! I feel like we are all one natural disaster away from being homeless.

SD: Tell me about your involvement with APP? Why did you get involved with the APP?

Bethrah: I believe wholeheartedly in the mission of the organization. I was taught early on that getting involved is important. I stay involved now with things I still have passion for. Teaching and Camp are the big ones. Over the years I served as Secretary for 10 years and president for three. I’ve served on many committees and covered a lot of different duties.

SD: It has been an honor to interview one of the key piercers in our industry that I feel should get a lot more credit for the contributions and sacrifices she has made to the industry. Thank you so much Bethrah

Bethrah on kitchen duty Camp APP 2017